Sarah Larbi: REITE Club Community. Welcome back to another awesome episode, and today is not necessarily real estate related, it's the Mind Estate podcast.
We've got a great guest, Nancy Morris, who's a psychologist, and she has been a psychology consultant, speaker, author, 19 plus years of academics under her belt. She's really the real deal and she has many years. Experience. Catherine, what did you think of today's podcast? Just as a little like tidbit before we get into it.
Katherine Nelson Riley: I really enjoy the fact that she was talking about in depth and being your self-awareness and paying attention to you so that you can keep track and balance so that you're self-aware and applying that your self-awareness or what you're thinking and making sure that you're aligned and, but she gave us tips on how to do that. It wasn't just talking. She told us what to look for and what to do and how to auto correct.
Sarah Larbi: Absolutely. And you know what, we talk a lot about financial wealth in our podcast.
This is about mental wealth today, REITE Club community. I hope you enjoyed today's podcast, which is really different than our real estate investing podcast. Please leave a rating review, send us an email, reach out to Nancy. We're gonna have her contact information as well in the show notes.
If you haven't yet register for free @thereiteclub.com. There's tons of online events. We're gonna start our in-person events very soon as well. And we also have tons of content from different webinars that we've recorded that you can review. We have forums, lots of great, people that you can connect with to build your team. And so much more @thereiteclub.com. Let's bring in Nancy and talk to her about mental wealth. Nancy, welcome to the show. How are you?
Nancy Morris: Great. I'm doing really good. How about you?
Sarah Larbi: Good. We're happy to have you back. You always bring a wealth of knowledge. You've been podcast guests in the past. You've also presented at our different events. What's new and exciting in your world today?
Nancy Morris: New and exciting. Not a lot. It's chugging along like I think it is with a lot of people. We're just figuring things out as we go along, as the world is pivoting a lot. So I think it's how well are you chugging along? And I'm chugging along. Great. How about you?
Sarah Larbi: Absolutely. I've been spending a ton of time at the cottage. I'll tell you, it's been a blessing in disguise throughout all of this. Just trying to, see friends, invite friends up, have nice food, have nice wine, enjoy the, the water and the peace.
Back in Oakville now, and I gotta get back into the swing of things, but it was, despite the pandemic and everything, probably the best summer that I've ever had. Because it was the first summer that I did not have a nine to five job. So I had that freedom of doing what I wanted with my time, and I've been able to reduce my work hours from, 80, 90, a hundred hours down to five or 10. That's been awesome. And Catherine, what about you?
Katherine Nelson Riley: It's been a busy summer. For me. We had, our youngest daughter got married, we had family and six grandkids and nice weather and playing and reconnecting and we were able to do it all outside and, safely and having fun.
One of the things that we did do as well and where I live, we. Hidden culinary gems, but also where the rowing is. And there was a lot of really great local events that were basically within either a two minute drive or or a quick walk. And it was just really nice to see everybody's creativity and we took advantage of it and we had a lot of fun. And my pants don't quit the same.
Nancy Morris: That's what they're, what are they calling it? Covid 25 now. That's what everybody's gained over the last 18 months. ,
Katherine Nelson Riley: I was calling it the Covid cost .
Sarah Larbi: That's awesome. You know what though? I actually started hitting the gym hard again. Now that things are opened up and I've gone every single day and, maybe once every, like two weeks, two weeks and a half, I'll like skip a day. And I know that's not good for your body. But it, for my mental clarity, it has been amazing to just work out for an hour and push yourself for an hour.
That kind of leads us into maybe a little bit of the topic for today on mental wealth. And when I was reading about, Nancy, what you were gonna talk and share about, Mental wealth. That to me is a really cool opportunity for us to, as real estate investors to take a moment and say, okay, what is mental wealth?
How can I get there? And maybe you can give us a little bit of a, overview on what that looks like and what that even means.
Nancy Morris: Sure. But I'm gonna cheat a little bit and say to you and Katherine, when you hear the term mental wealth, what does it mean to you?
Sarah Larbi: Maybe I'll go first, Catherine, unless you want to go first. One of the things that I've been doing and thinking more and as I had one of my mentors, Harry James, who's had, 35 plus years of real estate investing experience. And I think one of the things I admire the most and one of the things that he pushes me to do is just not look at just financial wealth but from a spiritual standpoint, a family relationship standpoint, a fitness wellness standpoint, all of those things.
When I think, you know of that term, mental wealth, I say, okay, other than financial wealth, cause that's what we probably get quickly from a real estate standpoint, it's not just about financial wealth.
It's about making sure that you are happy, that you are living your best potential. And that's the way that I. And one of the things that I've done, in the past few months was really just trying to say, okay, from a financial standpoint, I like where I am, but what else can I do to make my life even better? That's don't know if that's right or wrong, that's just my thoughts on it, but I'm sure you'll expand lots on that. Katherine, what about you?
Katherine Nelson Riley: I'm going to say ditto to what it is that you said, Sarah. Of course, but I'm gonna expand a little bit on it. For mental wealth is, I think building in addition to what you said, but building a strong foundation of self to where when you're grounded enough. And I've been really working on this lately and making sure, because I did find that I noticed myself fluctuating a bit emotionally and mentally. So I went back to the basics.
Very similar to what you're doing, making sure fitness and eating properly and taking care of yourself so that when life does throw the curves, because of course it is life and that you're gonna get curves that, that you're able to do, you're able to ride the wave and not fall off and drown and to be able to self-check in, how am I doing?
What do I need to do better care of myself, or do I need to reach out to somebody, that to me is also part of mental wealth. So Nancy, tell us how close were we?
Nancy Morris: Putting the two of them together. You're both right. So basically mental wealth, when you put the words together as one does, and the definitions we have of them, mental, or what people would normally say is mental health or mental wellbeing. So we've got that word. And then we have the word wealth, which is usually associated with abundance, whether that's financial or not, but usually it's financial.
It's that idea of having an abundance. What we've just been talking about, an abundance of the financial side of things, but also spiritual reserves, an abundance of good health, an abundance of all the other things that makes a person who they are. But it's also about how much time and energy do you invest using that word very specifically in continuing that journey of self-awareness.
For having studied this stuff for 20 years now and being a business psychologist for me, I know that the depth of your self-awareness equals the breadth of your success, however, you choose to define that word success or in whatever sort of domain of life we're talking about. Whether that's success in your business, success in your relationships, success in your physical wellbeing, all of these sorts of things, however you're defining that.
The more you know about yourself from a self-awareness point of view, what you were saying, Katherine, the more likely it is that you're going to make good, aligned even holistic choices and decisions to take the actions that you need to create the success that you. So mental wealth really touches on all of that. But to sum it up, it would be depth of self-awareness, paying attention to your thoughts, your feelings, and your actions so that those align with the goals you wish to achieve. Those two things put together. Am I behaving in a way that is aligned with the person I wish to be. Am I behaving in a way?
Am I making the choices and decisions around, say, performance schools, which I've talked to the REITE club about before? Am I taking those actions? What's blocking me from taking those actions? That's part of mental wealth as well, that personal insight. And Katherine, you're absolutely right. The more we understand about ourselves, what motivates us, what doesn't motivate us, who we want to be, why we do the things that we do, what is our sense of integrity?
What keeps us grounded, etc.. The more we know about that, the more resilient we are to the ups and downs of running a business to the ups and downs of our relationships, to the ups and downs of just life. Just the way the world is works, make or not. And that's basically to summarize it, that's what mental wealth is.
How much self-awareness do you have and how are you applying that through your actions, your performance goals, the steps that you're taking, your behaviors? And then your thinking is your thinking align, with what you're trying to achieve. And one of the problems I've seen quite a lot, I'd say over the last 18 months, two years, is that people, they're wishy-washy on this investment in self.
Yes, some people have really put their attention on it now because they've had a bit of time and space to do it, but I wonder what will happen this time next year. When, hopefully a lot of work will be back to quote unquote normal and all that sort of stuff. Are people gonna pay attention to this stuff anymore? I want to work in such a way that, I help people to create this habit of investing in their mental wealth. And that's why I think it's really important that we're talking about it now.
Sarah Larbi: Absolutely. So obviously this is huge right now. But like you said, it's gonna be just as important afterwards. But I think it's huge right now because we've created from the pandemic, in my opinion, a pandemic on, the mental, I don't know what the right word is, but there's definitely at least a lot of instability and a lot of unknowns. And from mental health standpoint, I think there's gonna be another pandemic coming out of the pandemic on mental wellbeing, so what are your thoughts on that?
Nancy Morris: Let just pause. I wanna do, if you don't mind, I want to do a couple of definitions. Okay. One of the mistakes that society makes and is through no fault of society's own, but how media and other people talk about it, is people think they're either mentally healthy or not. So I'm either mentally healthy, I'm fine, quote unquote, fine or there's something wrong. Rather than thinking of it that way, it's best to think of mental health as a spectrum, okay? With mental, solid mental wellbeing on one side and mental illness on the other side. And if you've put a bell curve on top of that, You can put that bell curve there for your day.
Let's say most of us live in the middle of that bell curve. Most of us are actually not quote unquote, mentally well all the time, okay? One way or another. We're a little bit nuts at some point through the course of the day. So it's a mistake to be thinking that if you're stressed, if you're anxious, if you are experiencing a desire to stay home instead of going out, any of these sorts of things, mild depression, stuff like that, it's a mistake to think that you're ill.
You're just on the spectrum of mental wellbeing. We have sort of ups and downs throughout the day, throughout the week, throughout the month, whatever it is. And that's absolutely fine. It's when you are depressed, staying at home, highly anxious, to the point where say you're not able to drive very well or something like that for weeks at an on.
Weeks and weeks, going on for weeks. Then you're tipping over to the one side of the bell curve, which is I need to go and speak with a physician or somebody like that. But for most of our day, we're not amazingly happy. We have moments of real joy and then we don't, and we get on with things.
Let's be clear. Mental health? To be honest with you, as from a psychological point of view, mental health is this spectrum, which is diagnostic in nature. Okay? So there's a whole, it's called the dsm, diagnostic and Statistical Manual with check boxes in it that people use to determine whether or not somebody is mentally healthy or mentally ill.
What I actually want most people to be talking about is simple mental well being, Simple mental wellbeing, which is, the whole gamut of your mental your state of mind. So instead of talking about mental health, which is really what the doctors talk about, let's just talk about mental wellbeing.
Am I feeling joyful today? Me, for the most part, yeah. I am. Oh, good. I'm fine do you know what I mean? But when we're always looking at mental health, which unfortunately has such a terrible stigma to it, then there's either I'm mentally healthy or I'm mentally ill. And just because you're having a bad day does not mean you're having a mental health crisis means you're having a bad day.
Okay. So I just, I went around the houses there, but think of your state of mind as mental wellbeing. That gives you the power to be more in control that. Mental health is a diagnostic, and you can't be in control of your mental health. You can be in control of your mental wellbeing.
Katherine Nelson Riley: What are some tips? Some of the, one of the things that we've seen a little bit more of is some of the names and on social media that come through and they, they'll say, Hey, one day I'm just rocking it. I've been able to check everything off my list and, be able to do this and this, and the next day.
I'm eating a full bag of chips and all the jujubes while, doing a Netflix marathon. Where the blanket pulled over my head, which is basically what I think. I hear you saying that it just kind of ebbs and flows. But when we do find yourself ebbing and flowing, what are some tips and tricks that you can give us to, first of all, recognition and second of all, for trying to stay on as even a keel as possible.
Nancy Morris: What you are talking about though, one day rocking it and one day, under the duvet with the remote control that is even keel. As long as you're not under the duvet for weeks or even days on end. There's nothing wrong with that. We call it mental health breaks too, don't we? And people call in sick or something at work when they need a mental health break and they just need a day to themselves. That's even keel. It's the first tip though, if you're under the duvet is are you beating yourself up for it? Are you saying I should be able to handle this? I should be able to get my butt out of bed and get to work?
I should. And as anybody who's heard me speak before knows. Shing on yourself is not a good thing. So we don't like to shit on ourselves. And notice how careful I am when I say that cause God knows I've screwed it up in presentations before. But the key thing is how are you being gentle with yourself?
Because you also need to be gentle when yourself, when you're really rocking it too. Because guess what, you're not gonna, nobody does that 24/7. If you look at any autobiography of anybody who's really successful, not biography, autobiography, you'll see it laced with comments about I spent time investing in my mental wellbeing so that when those days came, I wasn't a brute to myself.
I didn't talk to myself as if I was some sort of failure. I accepted those moments for what they were. I recognized them, and then I moved forward when it was right for me to do so. That's what I mean. Like we have this illusion that we should, there's that word again, be able to just rock it all the time or rock it Monday to Friday, or, show up really well.
One of the interesting things I've been observing over the last few months is the number of people who will now say out loud, you know what, I'm not having a good day. And everybody goes, oh, that's okay , you don't see anybody like on the other side of a Zoom call saying aren't you a failure? But you know that the person has probably told themselves that at some point in the past, nobody else would say it to you, but you're pretty good at saying it to yourself.
Tip number one, when you're having that day that you're under the duvet, check in with what you're saying. That will give you a really good measure of your state of mind and your mental wellbeing. If you're not being a brute, you're just observing and saying, okay, I need this break today. Excellent. If you're should anywhere, not so good. Mental wellbeing needs a little bit of work.
Sarah Larbi: That's a great tip. At the end of the day, it's good cause I'm sure we all have those days and we're like, oh my God. Everyone else is probably, doing awesome. And here I am on social media looking at what's happening with the politics and I'm angry there's like tons of scenarios where I'm like, am I the only one doing this?
Nancy Morris: I was on a call a few months ago with the head of a psychiatric hospital here in Ontario and he was doing a big presentation on stuff and he set a line, which I thought was really good. And there was all sorts of entrepreneurs on the line, cause as we know, entrepreneurs and, business owners and stuff have been struggling a lot and there's been increase in reported addictions and things like that. After a presentation of talking about what stress is and isn't.
He was, he said to everybody on the call because somebody said to him, I'm stressed. I'm having, I'm barking at my husband. I'm really short-tempered and I'm confused and I'm having trouble making decisions and I'm having trouble being committed. And he said, how long has this been going on?
She said, it goes up and down and everybody's yeah, okay. I could see people nodding, on the zoom call. And then he turned around and he said, if you weren't stressed and anxious right now, you'd need to see me because something would not be connecting in your brain about the state that we're in.
That so it's okay that you're stressed and anxious. What you do with it matters. So are you beating yourself up? Are you recognizing that it's gone on too long now and maybe you do want to go and talk to a doctor, or you do want to at least unload your concerns on somebody who can hear you and, deal with whatever it is that you're saying.
I really, because That's what we in psychology will tell people, but it was really great of him to say, if you're not stress stressed and anxious, I would be surprised. You need to come and see me. .
Katherine Nelson Riley: Wow. That's a little bit of an eye-opener there to keep everybody into check. And on the reality, and I think what you were saying too, Sarah, is that, when you go on to social media, which is prevalent in so many different ways in so many different formats today, but I think sometimes we also forget. What the majority of people usually do on social media is they put forth their best self.
We're comparing, what our, whatever mood or whatever it is that we're in at that moment with what somebody else is posting, and there's different perceptions that are there and what is it that we do and how do we do it, and so on and so forth. Nancy, what are some of the things that people can do? It to be able to make sure that their mental wealth is kept in check. And so that it is kept within, hopefully that range. And how do you know that it is time to maybe go check with somebody, but also re recognizing if it's on the other end? I'm just normal. This is part of that, as you say, like in that center section.
Nancy Morris: One of the things that I know a lot of people are doing right now is they're just checking in with their friends. So they'll get a, they'll have a nice open conversation with a trusted friend, and particularly if they're feeling a little edgy, a little bit concerned about their state of mind or whatever, and they'll say, could you, if you spot me being a little strange or whatever, could you just gimme a little nudge and just remind me or help me to understand?
It goes back to the self-awareness piece. Getting somebody just to keep an eye on you just to, check in with you and if they've noticed that you wanna stay home more than usual. And I don't mean go out and party or anything. I just even just go for a walk that you're staying home more to help encourage you to go for a walk.
Having that kind of conversation with somebody is really good. I know that journals are selling really well at chapters and all that blank journals because, not everybody likes to journal, but it can be very therapeutic in a private way where you're just journaling what you're thinking as it's as simple as writing down every night, five things you're grateful for and five things you're proud of that day.
Sometimes it could be, I'm grateful the sun came up. I'm proud of myself for getting out. It can be that simple and there's nothing wrong with that. Imagine how I should on myself sometimes as a psychologist and I'm having a bad day, and it's oh, I really should be able, I'm a psychologist for God's sake, I really should be able to figure this stuff out.
Then it's no, hang on. Why should I be able to figure it out? When you remember that most of your thinking is happening at the subconscious level, I can't know what's going on back there. I can only pay attention to what's coming forward. Journaling helps us to do that. Talking with other people helps us to do that.
Just pausing throughout the day, asking myself, how do I feel? What am I thinking right now? And what's the top priority of action for me to take in the next few minutes and just getting into the habit of doing that sort of insight, personal insight is super, super important to be able to do that. And really, how often do people do that? Katherine, how often do you do that? I'm sorry, I'm throwing you on the spot now.
Katherine Nelson Riley: Actually I'm glad you asked me that because I actually set my timer on my on my phone. Great. Great. And I have it set three or four times during the day because I've found what I was doing is I was getting so tunneled into my work or, being pulled in a whole bunch of different directions that all of a sudden I would forget, and I literally have the timer.
I stop, I take three or four deep breaths. I make sure, does my water need to be, refilled. Am I drinking enough? Oh, what about snacks and healthy snacks? 90% of the time. But if I'm gonna 10%, man, I'm gonna really 10% and enjoy it. But I do. And, but that's also been, learned over the years.
Nancy Morris: A great thing to do. I have a timer sitting on my desk actually, that does the same thing and I bought a very specific timer to do exactly that. They're a great thing to have, and it can be as simple as a kitchen timer or as you say, that timer on your phone. How about you, Sarah?
Sarah Larbi: As you were talking about journaling, I was thinking of Hal Elrod's Miracle Mourning. And I really think I need to get back to that. Now that I'm back at, in not work mode per se, but just like a little bit more, productivity, mode versus not summer mode.
One of the things that I've always struggled with was, Like, even just like I know it's good for me and it's good for others to meditate and to just, there's certain steps and I just go back like what you were saying to the Hal Elrod Miracle Morning, and I'm like, I used to do it for a short amount of time and it was nice and then I stopped and then, things got in the way.
Just to go back at the end of the day, like all those little things I think add up to making you even more, mentally wealthier or however you wanna put that together so I think the journaling and even just remembering, like even going back to three weeks, four weeks ago, cause I, I won't remember it otherwise .
Just to see what you were happy about, what you were thankful for, all of that stuff. I think it would be helpful. I think it's just a matter of like actually doing it, which is my other problem of, procrastination I suppose. I don't know.
Nancy Morris: Well it's, we don't, if somebody looks at their life, honestly, they'll recognize that we don't usually give ourselves the privileges we would afford others.
We don't give ourselves the time. We don't give ourselves the attention. We don't pay attention to ourselves. And I say ourself. As two separate words ourself, right? So we don't give that person much time and attention doing things like journaling or setting an alarm just to check in with yourself and say, Hey, self, how are you doing?
How are you feeling? What you thinking about? What you doing? Is there something you need? Do you need a little bit of food? Or some water as you say, Katherine, these sorts of things. Giving yourself that and making it a priority is also part of being mentally. Putting that first, understanding that your mental wellbeing underpins everything you want to achieve.
It is the foundation of everything that you want to achieve and therefore prioritizing it. And it can be as simple as 10 minutes a day. That's all. And I'm pretty sure that we all have 10 minutes a day, no matter how damn hot we think we are. We've got the 10 minutes a day to invest that time.
Sarah Larbi: A matter of, scheduling it in and just making it, something that's important and that needs to be done. And I think with repetition just like going to the gym, it's easier every day that you go, that you've gone already and you just add one more day to it. It's just easier, but it's getting started. That's. Really tough.
Nancy Morris: It's setting up any habit usually, as we all know, takes that period of time, of a few weeks, and then you bring in people just to remind you if you have a partner at home or something, just to how is your journaling today, a nice gentle reminder and it's, it can be helpful to turn your attention to that for sure.
Sarah Larbi: Absolutely. So I wanna pivot a little bit and just ask you about the Morris Code and what exactly that.
Nancy Morris: The Morris Code is a program that I've had out in the world since 2006, and I've sent it to over three and a half million people now, I think on six continents. And so every day I send out just this little email.
It's what's known as a micro-learning format. It's super short. Sometimes there's an audio with it, but it's usually an email that's about 150 words, takes a minute to read and there is in it what I call attitude and action. So the first part of the email is a story, an explanation, an idea around things to do with the small tweaks of habits or little behavior chains or little nuggets of learning that when applied or when you do something with it.
Even just thinking about it can help to do some of the things that we've talked about, like paying attention to journaling and making these incremental shifts in our state of mind to become more mentally wealthy. And I always add an action piece that could be, too journal or it could be to answer a question, or it could be to fill out a checklist or, whatever. There's some action point. So it's not just some rah. Instead of happy meme or something like that. It's actually a learning piece, and it goes out every day, Monday to Friday.
Sarah Larbi: Awesome. So Katherine any last comments before or questions before we get into our lightning round?
Katherine Nelson Riley: Actually, I find this really fascinating. One of the things that I really like about having any conversations with you or when you've been with The REITE Club and then. Just is that you actually give actionable, , it's what it is that you can do and some checklists and checking in with yourselves instead of just having an airy fairy or a , seriously, what the means that are out there and everybody Oh yeah, it's happy, yeah. That's great. But what do you do? Yeah. How do you recognize it? You always I really that you give some hardcore tips on how we can not only recognize, but to make ourselves better and to grow in so many different ways.
Nancy Morris: I really appreciate that. I do. And I'm pretty proud of the Morris Code because I know I get emails from people all the time saying, how did you know that was what I was going through? Or, this made a real difference to me today. And it's something I'm pretty proud of and I'm pretty proud to be sharing it with The REITE Club in future too.
Sarah Larbi: Nancy, can you share with everybody. What it is that you have a background in, just cause I know we'll do a little bit of an intro, but Sure. We have we need to listen to you because it's not like you just decided all of a sudden to, to talk about this. There, you've got a background in it. So if you don't mind just sharing with us. You know why, what you're saying.
Nancy Morris: It matters.
Sarah Larbi: Exactly. You took the words outta my.
Katherine Nelson Riley: It's you're qualified.
Nancy Morris: Yes. I'm qualified. I have been working in business psychology for over 20 years now, and I've been doing this work. I've owned my business now for over 20 years. I have a master's degree in applied psychology. I'm an associate business psychologist with association in the UK and I've spent a lot of time studying, taking all that academic stuff, which is tedious and boring to read, but really important to understand. So with the Morris Code in particular, I take that and turn it into, as you said, actionable steps, simple stories.
Simple ideas and I try and bring the best of what we know about how the human brain works and how to use that to our best advantage and put it in these little nuggets of information in the Morris coat. So that's what I've been doing like for forever feels and I love working in this domain too, because when People make that decision to invest in themselves, invest in understanding themselves, and also learning how the brain works.
Those are my funnest tips. There's some natural things that the brain does that most people don't know, and I like to share those in the Morse code as well. So when people get to know these things it's oh yeah, that explains a lot . It can be quite fun that way.
Sarah Larbi: Awesome. All right, cool. Well, Nancy, this is amazing and I just can't wait to have you back again and talk. You talk about so many different things. Like you talk about procrastination, you talk about, mental wealth today. It's just you are a wealth of knowledge .On many different topics, but our time is coming to an end. Part is our lightning round. So Katherine and I will ask you a series of four questions. Everybody gets the same four questions on the Mind Estate Podcast. Are you ready to play?
Nancy Morris: I guess so. I'm frightened, but go ahead.
Sarah Larbi: Alright, number one, what do you typically do on a random Sunday morning?
Nancy Morris: These days I've been investing more in my physical health. So we go grocery shopping and then I do food prep. And one of the things I've learned to do from my own mental health is, other than that, I make no plans ever for a Sunday. I get up on a Sunday morning and I decide that day. What do I wanna do and then I take it from there.
Sarah Larbi: That sounds awesome. Sounds like my type of Sunday . Prep and the grocery shopping, just out .
Katherine Nelson Riley: It sounds good. Like you can just go with the flow. I love it. That's really great. What is the one thing you can't leave the house without or without doing, excluding your cell phone?
Nancy Morris: My debit card. Must have my debit card, and I also make sure the cat's okay.
Sarah Larbi: No credit card, debit card is the way to go?
Nancy Morris: Debit card. Love debit card. If credit card is danger in my hand. debit, debit card, or cash.
Sarah Larbi: All right. Awesome. Number three, what is your favorite nonfiction or business related book that our REITE club community can read or do or listen to on one of those options.
Nancy Morris: Are those podcast things? No surprise, my own procrastinate now by Nancy Morris. Of course, that's my favorite book. Other than that, I would say that your Erroneous Zones by Wayne Dyer from 1979. That would be my favorite personal development book and one of my favorite business books would be StoryBrand by Donald Miller.
Sarah Larbi: I read StoryBrand actually. That's great. Who told me to read StoryBrand is Paul Cup Cuts, who is our branding manager. It is. It is really good. And in your book, where can people go to get your book?
Nancy Morris: It's available on Amazon and I also will make a link available to The REITE club for the PDF version of my book and or the audio book. I can't remember which.
Katherine Nelson Riley: Which is excellent by the way, because I have read it.
Nancy Morris: Yes, you have .
Katherine Nelson Riley: Absolutely. Okay, so here is your wrap up question. Who do you go to for advice on your business and why?
Nancy Morris: Laurel Simmons because we know each other so well, she tell me when I'm being a doofus, an idiot, and I trust her judgment about what she's saying about my business. She's known my, she known me forever and she knows an awful lot about my business. That's who I go to when I have business questions.
Sarah Larbi: Nancy, thank you for playing the lightning round questions and playing the game. And we will add in the show notes how to contact you, how to reach out to Nancy, how to get to your book, whether it's through audio book or regular hard cover book.
Nancy, thank you. We'll have to have you come back because you have so many different topics. You can have so many different directions of things that you can teach us. Thank you so much for making my mental health and mental wealth much better as we're going through this podcast. I can't speak for Katherine, but I learned a lot today and it sounds like Katherine as well.
Katherine Nelson Riley: Absolutely. I did. That was fabulous. Thank you so much again, Nancy. And I'm gonna just encourage our REITE club nation listeners to tune in and follow nancy. You'll be glad you did.
Nancy Morris: I really appreciate that. And as always, it's fun to be here and, happy to come back anytime you like. It's always great to come back.
Sarah Larbi: Thanks very much, Nancy. Thank you.
Nancy Morris: Thank you bye.
Sarah Larbi: You know what? I really enjoyed Katherine talking to Nancy, and I think one of the things I'm gonna take away from today is journaling, and I'm gonna just test it out, try it out for a week and see if I see an improvement in my mental wealth from just doing that one little tiny tweak and seeing how things progress from there. What are your big key takeaways from today?
Katherine Nelson Riley: Was, she was talking about attitude and action. And it's the small tweaks of the habits that really make the difference. It's stopping and doing a self checking. It's the journaling. It's making sure that you know that, hey, if you're rocking it one day and everything is going really well, and then the next day you're doing a marathon of Netflix with a duvet over your head.
It's quite fine to be able to do that. It's just a matter of checking in and making sure how you're talking to yourself while you're doing it and making sure you're okay. But it was really interesting and fascinating. She had some great tips. I really enjoyed that and I've got a lot of takeaways that I can go in action now.
Sarah Larbi: That's amazing. And I think these are the important parts of this, right? Is you listen to something and you go and implement or take action on a piece of what you've learned today or all of it if you can. Even just a little tiny piece at a time, it's hard to make all these changes all at once.
The implementation part is critical because you can ingest a lot of information, but if you don't actually produce any results from the learnings what's the point of getting more information in? So I think that's a great. Katherine, that you're gonna go ahead and implement those things and let's keep each other accountable.
Have an accountability partner and you're gonna, start making some changes to in bettering and your mental wealth and and really living life on your terms, living your dreams, following, your goals. We do real estate's investing not only from a financial standpoint.
To ensure that we live the best life possible. And so REITE Club community, thank you so much for tuning in. Until next week, what do we say Katherine?
Katherine Nelson Riley: Come grow with us. Absolutely.
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